Monaco '79: Barely fast enough for that new ground effect to work.

"Grindintosecond" (Grindintosecond) 05/29/2018 at 11:17 • Filed to: None

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All Ferrari front row. Scheckter v. Villenuve . It’s like watching an 80's NFL playoff game. Slow marshmallowy guys compared to today’s over-cut roid raging supermen. Do we have a Gordon Murray of today somewhere?

Future next gen S2000 owner > Grindintosecond 05/29/2018 at 11:49

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Did someone slow the video down?

punkgoose17 > Grindintosecond 05/29/2018 at 12:01

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After Hartley lost his rear wing I was left wondering, what an F1 car would be like if all the aero had to be between the wheels?

Maybe the front page is right and we need Monaco specific rules? I propose aero rules that create passing areas other than pit lane.

AuthiCooper1300 > Grindintosecond 05/29/2018 at 12:40

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Scheckter and Villeneuve cars were theoretically designed with ground effects in mind, but the 312 T4 still had that very wide flat-12 engine (and a transversal gearbox). The side pods (effectively, inverted wing stubs) were not long enough. It was a similar story with Brabham’s Alfa Romeo flat-12.

Only cars with the DFV and the lone Renault turbo V6 had the proper plan form for a wing car/ground effects car (Lotus should have capitalised on what they had found but Chapman lost an enormous amount of time and effort on the winglesss 8o while his rivals were already coming to terms with the new concepts introduced in the 79.) Even so, Scheckter would end up champion and he and Villeneuve gave Ferrari the constructor’s title (the extreme reliability of the engine was certainly a factor).

 That “short” T4 for Monaco looked like nothing else on the track, incidentally.